Michael Marshall and Cecil Cicirello break down Joe's October 2025 interview with investigative journalist Mariana van Zeller.

The Biden Border Crisis | Senator Cornyn - https://www.cornyn.senate.gov/biden-border-crisis/
Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year | USAFacts - https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/
STARTLING STATS FACTSHEET: Biden and Harris’ Border Crisis Still Wreaking Havoc—at the Borders and in the Interior - https://homeland.house.gov/2024/09/23/startling-stats-factsheet-biden-and-harris-border-crisis-still-wreaking-havoc-at-the-borders-and-in-the-interior/
STARTLING STATS FACTSHEET: Fiscal Year 2024 Ends With Nearly 3 Million Inadmissible Encounters, 10.8 Million Total Encounters Since FY2021 – Committee on Homeland Security - https://homeland.house.gov/2024/10/24/startling-stats-factsheet-fiscal-year-2024-ends-with-nearly-3-million-inadmissible-encounters-10-8-million-total-encounters-since-fy2021/
Nearly one year after its passage, Minnesota immigrants embracing Driver’s License for All | MPR News - https://www.mprnews.org/story/2024/09/27/nearly-one-year-after-its-passage-minnesota-immigrants-embracing-drivers-license-for-all
Secretary of State: 'It's a felony to vote in Minnesota if you are not eligible' - https://www.kare11.com/article/news/politics/secretary-of-state-felony-to-vote-minnesota-if-you-are-not-eligible/89-440ef711-4111-4fde-aa8c-f24e43f3575c
Heritage Foundation Election Fraud Map for Minnesota - https://electionfraud.heritage.org/search?state=mn
Questions and Answers: Affirmative Asylum Eligibility and Applications - https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum/affirmative-asylum-frequently-asked-questions/questions-and-answers-affirmative-asylum-eligibility-and-applications

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